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This is a recording of comments at lunch made by mrs glen McIntyre actually vina McIntyre and mrs bert vest Saratoga California at 18802 devon Avenue Saratoga California on april 4 1987. The project name is the building of the Golden Gate bridge for the Labor Archives and

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Research center. San Francisco State University. The universe or or really person taking these taking a recording of these comments is harvey Schwartz recording of comments at lunch by mrs Burt. Actually first you will hear mrs Glen McIntyre or Alvin a McIntyre. Then you will hear mrs

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Vesna this Recording was done on four April 1987. It was done at 18802 Devon Avenue in Saratoga California mrs businesses house. Um this is L. Veena McIntyre is here talking about the time her husband Glenn was hit with an £8 piece of metal in the head.

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The interviewer or the person at least in this case taking the recording is harvey Schwartz. He places in sanctions. So let's see, yeah, Mhm can you wait a minute? No, can you hold that up the minute that working for the Marine Corps?

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Wait a minute was it county hospital? Someone drove me to ST Lukes was trying to think who drove me. Somebody drove me over there. Some fellow. Yeah, no you it wasn't hurt that I went right past the door when they told me what room number you

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were in and I went back to the desk and I said he's not in there. I said I saw a fellow laying there all swollen up. She says well that's him. And she took me this nurse at the desk took me to the door. She says

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right in there, you know, did you can you tell me what it was like? You know, being a wife, Being a wife? Yeah. What was the impact on your family life? Well that when he kissed me goodbye in the morning to go to work, I never

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knew if he was coming home for dinner. That was my feeling the whole time that he worked there. And then if he leaves the house a few minutes later than usual, then I knew he would have to speed up and run like hell up to those

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girders. And that was another thing that bothered me all the times when we first started we used to get on the old fishing book. You never knew if he was going to get to the job either. What kind of what kind of did it have an

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impact on your marriage? On your very life life together? No, no, no. I was always glad to see him when it was time for him to be home. How did you, how did you manage? You know the concern psychologically? How did you manage yourself? Your you

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know your I'm asking you had to have strength and bear with it. You know what I mean? You have Children? You have Children and you can't break yourself down. You've got to keep going. The only thing that was hard when I sat there for two hours

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right there, try to form a telegram to tell a pusher up and In a coma that I couldn't be up on the job because my wife was pricing 15 years, after 15 years, after the youngest Susana tried like hell to get that for you. And I

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hope, I hope it's clear if it's not, I did the best I could with it. Bye. Kids collapsed on and Michael went to Vietnam the same day, my youngest son. And I thought Lord the Lord was on a vacation. I really did this storming

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raining and everything. And the bridge was swaying. And for me who came from the flatlands of Canada, where they didn't even have a bridge. I was terrified. I said to the bridge is moving. You know, you could just feel it. It was just whipping and oh,

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I was so scared. I'll never forget that of 37 Bridge open because we were living up shell ville. You know what that is. Well, didn't the bridge opened, May 27th, 1937 27. This is the first time you both drove across it. No, he had, I think,

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driven across it. But the first time I and this is also 1937. Yeah, that winter because I was the one, do you remember The winner of 37. It rained for steady for so many days, 40, 50 days and attempted to build. Never shut up. Well that

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spring the next spring March of 38 you know, we went to Seattle and and that rain, we still had the ranch up but the shell bill, my father was living on it and so we drove across there and of course all that black point cut off

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there was underwater was terrible. The water was up to the running board. That was what they had for years in frisco and they had steaks by the side of the road, you know, so you wouldn't drive off into the water. And I was just petrified. My

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girl was just little and Darlene was little. I was holding on my knee and I kept saying don't get so close to the sticks. I thought we'd go floating off into the water. But when I got on that bridge and it was actually moving. I know

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nothing about construction and I thought well how come the bridge is moving? Maybe it's going to fall down. I didn't have enough sense to know that they had, this could move so many feet. Never forget it. 27 ft. Cannon Is it 18 um you, you, you

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were there for opening ceremonies right, what, what was that like? It was packed there. They had people walking down in the middle, They had people on both sides, one going this way and one coming this way and they had concessions where you could buy things. Oh

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yeah. Well like that hat that I had and the kid, I bought that on the bridge and they had candy, they had ice cream like a concession on the bridge. Great accomplishment. Everybody seemed happy. All the people, the expression and the talk and they're, you know,

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laughing and everything. Yeah, it was, I would say it was a gala affair opening day joyous really. People were so thrilled with that bridge And my kid, he was only seven. Not once did he say he was tired? Yeah, he was so excited. I bet. Yeah.

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That's wonderful. You know that he could walk across their oldest boys the same age as, So that's your younger, your younger. That's it. Wait till he gets his picture. I had made 5x7. It really is so thrilled with that. He's too fussy. I told him I

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said I got a picture but by your own frame he has to have the frames, the decor of his house, one of those kinds right? He's with his furniture and his coloring and his pain. So I told him five x 7 frame when I come up

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I said I'll bring in the picture. Did you have a special feeling because your husband worked on the bridge. I mean on the, on the opening day he was over there somewhere. I don't know where he was. He wasn't home. That's for sure you were working

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some other job when you went across the bridge. You know the first day I didn't have any extra meaning to you because he worked on it so much because he worked on it. What kind of feelings did you have? Well I had a very proud feeling

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my husband worked on there. My husband was high climber connector on those and you were always, you were proud of everything about san Francisco. She's a true san Francisco night, this is the farthest I've got and I'm not going any further. No but I just since

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I've known you talk she's always so proud of everything that happened in san san Francisco isn't the same today or several years back as it was then. Oh no. How did san Francisco change then because of the bridge? Golden Gate Bridge? Oh it didn't change san

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Francisco, it was a great bridge for sightseers because everybody that came to visit us, they wanted to see the Golden Gate Bridge off to the Golden Gate Bridge. We went just now. It's bart they wanna ride. Bart this is the yeah we have a reunion every

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year. It wasn't the war that changed every year, san Francisco was never the same after the world changed so drastically. That was a coldest year and I went out of here with because I got laid off and I told him I would go down and he

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said go down and get signed up re signed up I said go to hell I said, I want to get the signed up California, you get laid off, you're paid off. I said, I'm going down there and I told my mother I was going to be

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home for christmas. So I went home see my sister and we went over to como, she lived just below the narrows bridge there in Tacoma and so I ended up, went there and then I came back, I picked up my little sister, she lived in Salem

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Oregon, she had 2.5 months old baby me with a California top on the Chevrolet and I picked her up and we went and then I took my mother over to take her home for christmas and we went over there and my brother, I was driving out

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of the yard, they're getting back and he said, do you have any change in your car? I said change that said hell no. I said that wouldn't use chains, just like an iron worker said he won't work in the rain up in Seattle. I said he

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threw an old tent rope the back of my car. He says, you may need this drive careful. I went out there and snow so heavy and everything I know, my God, that canvas stopped, no heater, no heater, nothing in the car, got down along the Columbia

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River and over there, this is harvey Schwartz. This was an effort to capture some of the feelings of a couple of women who were involved in one way or another with the Golden Gate Bridge. Ah they really didn't want to be interviewed separately. Um They had

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some interesting and useful feelings to relay, given that they didn't really want to be interviewed in a separate basis. Um I did the best I could with the matter and made an effort during lunch discussion too, capture what bit I could. I think this was about

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all that could be done, although it was hardly under ideal conditions. This is the end of the luncheon session with Mrs Glen McIntyre and mrs Burt vest. When I might add a little bit, of course Mrs Glen McIntyre is Alvin McIntyre. She's mr Glenn McIntyre's wife.

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Um Mrs Bird is of course Bert wife Bert was the teamster who was interviewed separately. Local 85 driver who was involved in work at one point on the bridge as a hauler and she is of course, also the mother of Walter Besties who was an ironworker

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who worked on the bridge in 1965 and was also interviewed in uh or on tape along with um his father Bert business. This is the end of this tape. Over and out