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It gives you some, show you some images, you know, and a piece of filmmaking. I think it's great. Yeah, he knows he knows how to use a camera that's all they did, yeah, um, so you know I actually I've got some real specific questions and then

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maybe we can kind of spin off. I know Tom has this bright idea that he's gonna get everybody together for a big bounce ideas off each other and probably you know, refresh everybody's memory a little better in a group it's easier to do. I'm at the

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point now where I'm in November 5 on what kind of negotiations went on there were a couple of meetings at the Assumption that it went nowhere. So how do you remember about the, you know. There was, um, since, since there was already a

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committee being, you know, working out and then the elections came out, you know, and when the elections, you know, came all of a sudden, uh, I think a lot of people felt, especially us, you know, that us, I mean us with, with, um, Manuel, that there

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should be workers that should run against, you know, the, the slate. There was the old, the old guard, man, in a sense because it was Sergio and and his good old boys. And a discussion took place in the in the committee and the strikers committee, you

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know, and what I remember was out of the strikers committee, you know, because people were there in the committee. This is where it was decided to have people there run, you know, Chabelo was in the strikers committee. Gloria was in the strikers committee, and also, uh,

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this other guy named, I'm trying to remember his name, and I think I don't know if it was, I think it was Eddie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK, he was the other one, Torres, yeah, Eddie Torres, and then there were some other people they were looking to

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also to fill the rest of the slate. I don't even remember who was all the slate, you know, OK, but that was discussed in the strikers committee and with the and the and with the people that the Strikers committee was relating to, and they endorsed the

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idea for having this group run, and that's how it happened. Sergio had his, you know, grouping of people. And then when I, when the nominations happened, I don't remember them because we could not go in there, you know. We respected the, the people from. You know,

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it was only members who were gonna elect the, the, the candidates, you know, uh, so that's what I remember and, and then a lot of work was done, man, uh, you know, to get them elected and, uh. A lot of work, man, and the only one

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who won was Chevelo. Oh yeah, he won and he, he became because in that place you have to be elected to be a business agent. He was, he was running for a business agent after the strike. Oh yeah, no, no, I mean, no, it was, you

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know, during the strike that the strike that was after, you know, you know, um, but during the strike, you know, when the strike, um. No, he won. He won in the first election in 5, yeah, when the election, when, when, when we first threw the, the,

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the election is when Chavelo won, you know, in the, in the elections were done almost, almost at the end of the strike, you know. Gloria's brother, we were running for president Armando Sergio and we all feel that something sneaky there where

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all of a sudden. Armando resigns and and they were comments, you know, talked about that something something was given to him. I don't know, you know, but Alex got to him to talk to him because all of a sudden he decides, no, I'm not running and

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we go what? because everybody felt that of anyone he had the best chances of winning, you know. According to Joe Fahey, he said he He tried to warn you about Amanda that he was gonna give you a heads up, you know Joe told me he had

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a big falling out with Jose Lopez that wanted to go after Sergio's and Joe said we can't beat Sergio. It's it's a waste of time, you know. Here's where I think you might be confusing to my understanding is that Joe was the only person who was

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elected and then was like a 1015 years whatever it was. You know, um Maybe I don't, you know. Maybe let me see, no, because that was the same that that that election is when Gloria Chabelo, Armando, the whole slate is when I remember I got the,

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you know, and I know they were at the office. And I also know that there was just this. Big, big ruckus. Ah, because there were competing opposition slaves, you know, that. There was no unified slate turning against Sergio and the old guard, you know, that, uh,

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there was some overlap. I think both TDU and the People Slate both included Eddie Torres and both included another guy from, I don't know, Schmuckers or something. I forget his name. Yeah, OK. Sergio Armando Gloria Ellis Ellis. He actually had a majority and if Gloria and

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hadn't been running against each other, he would have won. Um, I guess Shavello ran for business agent against Joe and Henry Selles, and, uh, Joe and Henry won. Uh, and, um, that Chevella made the strongest showing of all the people slave people. I think I got

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45% of the vote or something like that. That's what I've got. So, you know, right after the strike. He kind of emerged as a union at that point. The 2nd elections after the strike is over. And I guess you know Sergio sent him down to Mexico

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to see about organizing, you know, Mexican plans. He was sort of hoping that with Ron Kerry in the international, you know, that maybe the teamsters could be persuaded to take it on, that kind of thing. I was I was I was there. Yeah,

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yeah. He said yeah I know. I, I deal a lot with none of those. I was, I was mainly the, you know, and I was just. You know, that was my relationship, you know, that was, that was my work. Um, here's

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another question, um. Gloria said in the hall selected 15 rib just met, then later we opened them up. I get that. Well yeah, no, I mean there was from the beginning, man, um, the hall was used, you know, for the strike and the hall, you know,

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was, I mean there was always workers there, almost 24 hours. 24 hours workers, I mean the whole, the hall never closed. So this business about, you know, oh, the striker committee was not open to people and they had a preset agenda, you know, the invitation on

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the meetings, blah blah. Yeah. I mean they were the ones that had those meetings. They were the ones that, you know, it was, it was them on a day to day, you know, business that they were there, you know, it was Gloria, Cuca Chavelo, all of

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them. You know, I guess.