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A man by the name of Marin. was in charge of WTA in my congressional district. He had been the campaign manager for my Republican opponents whom I defeated. Stinger, former former congressman Fifinger. So I told her to. Hopkins. Quarry jumped in. He said, John, how, what,

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how can you talk that way about moron? Moron is very well liked by living in the city of Duluth. Well, I had carried the city of Duluth by quite a majority. And the workers in Duluth lived on the west end of the, of the city, not

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on the east end. So I said to have uh to quality, how can you account for that? I was very young. I was sick. Well, when we got out of there, by the way, at that time, Hops and stormy that's all right, I'll get rid of

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more what she did. When we get out of Hopkins office. Qu who had realized that he had that he had gotten me angry. Put his arm, and he said, John, you're not angry at me. Well, I trust him in a way that I don't like to

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repeat at this time. I said, you're drunk and so and so. Next time you stick your nose in my district. Especially when you lie about what the situation is, I'm going to pat you right between the eyes. And before we left, as we were about to

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leave. Hopkins said to Governor Benson, Governor wanted to stay here for a little while. I, I want to talk to you. Which he did. After When Benson came to my office after having spoken, he had spoken with Afghans. He said to me, Johnny. You go and

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see Hakem. He likes you. And he made a statement, Hopkins made a statement to to dance I hesitate a little to repeat. Are you Well, anyway, you're the, uh, Hopkins said to Benson, governor. The only real guy that you have in your delegation is that little

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fellow Johnny Bernard. That's why Bantu came to me and said he likes you. So after they got rid of more in my district, they put another side but the McDonald's. McDonald, who was even worse than Moron. And he was doing his level best to undermine. Not

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only do you deal with his farm family, and I got in touch with Hopkins and I got rid of him. I mean, he got rid of him also and that's the end of the literacy. And uh This um We had had several hard winters. In Wyoming

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and I mean in in Colorado. And my father lost a great many head of horses and cattle. And he was heavily in debt. For the ranch. So they uh The mortgage, the mortgage foreclosed on the man and that lost it. All he salvaged was his racehorses

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and uh a couple of work teams and some saddle horses. So we went up to Saratoga and he tried to recoup his fortunes. In the racing games. And failed. So then we moved to Denver, where he had gotten a contract with the city of Denver. To

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um Build the aqueduct. That brought the first. Um, water to be distributed through the city down from the high mountain country, pure spring water that came down. How many of you, uh, there were, uh, at that time there were. Um, 5 of us. Mhm. And uh.

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3 more were born in Denver. I think I understand now why my mother hated the country so the first year that she lived in the park. They, um, it was, it was a. As my uh uncle used to describe it. A climate of 9 months winter

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and 3 months late in the fall. That's yeah, this is Minnesota too. But when I was up there it was beautiful weather in the middle of July. It was just wonderful weather and uh I had a wonderful time while I was in the valley. It's only

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a few days. But um Um And when we moved to Denver. In order to supplement the family income, uh, my, uh, an uncle. lived who lived with us, and my mother leased a chicken ranch, a chicken farm rather. And they ran the chicken farm while Dad

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was out on the project of building the aqueduct. And uh so it was on the edge of town and we children had practically the freedom of the great outdoors, you know. And we moved from one house to another as fortune bettered itself, and my father always

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wanted to go back to ranching. So 192. He um We disposed of all of our furniture except what we could load into 3 covered wagons. And we started for the Pocatello Indian Reservation which was being thrown thrown open for settlements. In Southern Idaho, Idaho. So we

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took off in these covered wagons, the 3 wagons, and we had one saddle horse beside. Well, it took us all summer to drive across. Going up through the mountains across the Burthout Pass, I'll never forget we've camped on Burthout Pass on the 4th of July. In

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6 inches of snow. And it had been snowing all afternoon and we were going up this steep mountain. Pass which was a single wagon road with turnouts here and there and no pavement, there weren't any pavements anywhere then, not even in the city streets. And we'd

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wind Hairpin turns all the way up to that and we we stopped at the halfway house, which was an old stage road. And it was deserted, but we had our lunch there. I remember a canned cold beans. And I was 10, but I think I remember

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that journey better than I do any other jour journey I ever made in my life because it was all so new and adventurous. And I thoroughly enjoyed it and I think all of us children did. It was hard on mothers, but, uh, Dad had everything very

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well organized. He built cupboards on the back of the wagons and one of them was the cook, the, the kitchen. It was a huge cupboard with a door that was on the hinges and it let down for the eating table. And we could all 10 of

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us sit around that eating table, uh, because two of my uncles went along with us, you see, and then there were the, were there any danger of Indian? Oh no, no, Indians were very peaceful at that time. Uh, I never remember any uh any trouble with

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Indians in my lifetime, and my father, when he first came west, which was years before I was born. See, I was the youngest of the 5 girls. In the family. And I had 1 older brother and then 4 younger brothers. And uh uh we would occasionally

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meet um along the road on our travels from Colorado to Wyoming, we would meet a band of Indians that were going from one reser reservation or the other. To um Uh, visit. They were great visitors. And uh they were always peaceful and nice and uh if

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they came along at mealtime, we'd share meals with them, you know, share what we had, we had very little. But we could, we lived on the game as far as meat was concerned. There was plenty of wild game to be had and cotton tails and and

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uh prairie chicken and. Sage hands and Grouse along the river banks and the creek banks and plenty of fish wherever we camped on a stream, we would have fish, fresh fish for dinner because the boys would we'd follow Dad and us younger children would set up

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a camp. The older boys, my older brother and my two uncles would go out and fish. And bring in enough fish for dinner in very little time usually, if we were camped on the stream. Sometimes have enough left over, you know, for another meal, but you,

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we had no ice, we had no refrigeration, of course, so uh you couldn't keep anything like that too long. So we uh tried to just uh. Uh, kill what game we could use for the day. And mother would And of course there were no such thing

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as baker's bread. Available out in that ranch country. So she would set the yeast at night to rise and mix it in the morning into the bread in great big bread pan like this. And Then during the day we'd stop along, you know, the way to

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rest the horses, and she would punch the bread down, work it down, you know, and along about 4 o'clock in the afternoon, put it into the bread pans so that by the time we got to where we were going to camp for the night. The bread

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would be ready to put in the oven. Well, the first thing that happened when we counted was Dad would take the stove off the other wagon where it was carried. And set it up and get a fire going in it. We had plenty of fuel for

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the picking up but it was nothing but sagebrush, and that little stove would heat up in no time, you know, till the oven was hot enough to put in the bread, and we'd have hot bread for dinner that night and enough to last for probably 2

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days by the time the baking was all done. Because we baked Oh, a dozen most of the time, you know. Did you run into other covered wagons going your way? And not too often, we did. Occasionally we'd meet somebody coming back that had gotten sick and

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tired of pioneering in the west and we're going back east again. But uh uh once in a while we would uh would run across other. Uh, people who were going by, but by that time there were, there were some railroads then, you know, and, uh, but

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it was uh. Uh, since we had the stock, the horses, and Dad wanted to start another ranch, right. We, it was cheaper with our big family to travel overland and we'd have the wagons when we got there and enough furniture to set up rude housekeeping anyway.

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Well, we traveled that way across all of Wyoming, and it got to the very edge of Wyoming, a little town called uh. Oh dear. Well, maybe it'll come to you later. Oh I can't remember the time slipped my mind. But it was uh a few miles

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short of our well about. 50 miles short of our destination, we were headed for Pocatello and uh. We got to this little town. On a Saturday afternoon. The horses were very tired. And so that's, we found a place to camp on Bear River. And uh Dad

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said we'll rest here for a few days before we go on and let the horses rest. There was lush grass all along the river banks and, and there were trout jumping in the stream and wild berries together, you know, and make eyes out of them. And

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a chance to do the family wash and, and just rested up for a few days. So we all got baths and cleaned up and decided to take a walk up and see the little town. Cokeville was the name of the town, Coville. And uh So I

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can remember Dad dressed up in his Teamsters uniform. He was a charter member of the Teamsters Union when it was first organized in Denver, and their uniform was a black satin shirt. Blue jeans, black tie, and the buggy whip. Oh Sure, they were real teams. So

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he dressed up in his teamsters uniform without the buggy and took us all up to the. The Tom mother was too tired. She said she'd lie down and take a nap. Well, we were passing the uh. The corner Where the big bank. It was the biggest

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building in the town right on the corner, it was kind of a V-shaped corner, and the steps were on the corner coming down round the steps. And here came this very distinguished looking man.