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I had, this is Chief Baker uh representing the People's Power or People's Park March committees. And Mr Miller stated that he would take a great application for permit application, would consult with other people concerned in the committee and would return that application. The time uh reported

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I indicated to Mr Miller that I would not uh come up at the last moment at 1030 or 11 o'clock tomorrow morning. That would be uh I'm taking this opportunity to state that I do feel that I have to deny this permit. The name of the

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applicant on the permit is the People's Park March Committee and without going through all of the uh address going on. Ok. Work. The date is given there may 30th 530 the time from 1:15 p.m. to seven or 8 p.m. The number of person participating estimated is

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30 to 50,000 people. The number and kinds of vehicles will be 8 to 10. The location of the assembly area is listed as first and grant and the dispersal area is listed as People's Park number one light and outage. And the plans for assembly and dispersal

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including times indicate general dispersal 7 to 8 p.m. and then a happening rally from 230 pm to seven or eight, excuse me PM. The routes that are listed for this parade. First parade are four, there will be four marches to proceed on four different routes. The

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People's Park located at one way about route number one would be from the Assembly Point east on first to Gy south on G to Piedmont and thence to white. And then the group would apparently split because it indicates white and case in the rally point. No

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road, Keystone Parker in the region. North on region to the rally point rock number three, verse two, shadow south on Shatter to a tow and east to the rally point through direct route number four first to Oxford south on Oxford to bro Duran. Then east on

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these, the telegraph, the south on telegraph to the R point because within actually one trade with four sex, I think a phrase for it should be credited. But I think that it should be ready for a the falling which would be from the assembly areas to

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First East on first to Oxford and south on Oxford to white. That's the right past the People's part to Piedmont North on Piedmont and daily to the university. And that's back to the assembly area. The purpose of this would be that there is an adequate area

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there for this person. I do not feel that there is an adequate area for dispersal submission, sanitary facilities or other facilities or a group for a crowd of this size to disperse on the streets surrounding the cage. Telegraph, a white car. You any further comments at

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this time? Then Mr Hanley, as I understand the chief, he has suggested that this March proceed from Hurston Grant up to Oxford south. Was it to Dwight? That's correct. East to Gy Road, then north to to Hurst and then west back to the original assembly area.

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Is that right? Has 1 March one word. This is A B A and KKK. You do not consider that a permit should be given for the four route proposal proposed with no dispersal area. Is that right? That's correct. I think that for proposal contains some almost

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insurmountable management problems from a public safety standpoint, afraid or I don't feel I can issue this per minute. Now, I do think that this single trade if it wishes to divide into four or five segments along that route, uh This would be perfectly well. Uh How

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would you like a motion phrased, Mr Hanley if you're suggesting that this is the manner in or with this particular route and origin and destination that you and your advisers recommend, would you like to put in a phrase to count us the possibility of divisions into

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multiple routes following this general route? Or would you like to keep it a simple suggestion if I understood the chief correctly? Uh he was indicating that the, the one route uh for the parade uh was really the only um possible way in which the situation could

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be handled peacefully effectively, uh and manage both in terms of public safety in terms of public health. And it was my understanding that he was speaking in terms of perhaps four different segments taking off on the same route uh at slightly different times following the same

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route. But in different groups, is that right? If that's the desire of the committee. Yeah. And I, I would only add this Mr Mayor, I, I wholeheartedly concur with the chief uh in his analysis of the problems involved in an application which involves four separate routes

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converging on one point with no dispersal area. Yeah, it would be to totally unmanageable. It would not in effect be uh a march or a parade and it would present really just impossible problems in terms of public safety, public comfort for the people involved that even

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if the numbers of people involved were less than that by half, there simply would not be enough room on the surrounding streets occupied in every direction of the compass to make anything like a uh manageable a public safety situation. In terms of the community, we feel

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that they, they have selected a very acceptable and uh desirable assembly point. Uh There is uh a route which will make it possible for everyone who wishes to demonstrate their feelings. Uh with respect to the issue involved uh that would be provided, uh It would make

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it possible for uh at the same time people to return to an as a dispersal area where there is sufficient space to, for the people to conduct any kind of rally of celebration or whatever it may be termed at the conclusion of the mar, but without

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a dispersal point and without an area that's open enough for people to, uh, uh, be unprimed and to, uh, be in a set of circumstances in which, uh, even a rally could be conducted. Uh, seems to be a really a totally unmanageable request. Is there someone

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on the council now who would like to make a motion as files that a parade permit be issued to the People's Park Parade committee? Do I get the name correctly? People's Park parade parade committee, People's Park Park Park Committee or March March Committee be issued a

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permit for a parade during the times of noon to 7 p.m. Was it? So it, it asks for 115 pm to seven or 8 p.m. All right, from noon to 7 p.m. to follow the route from Gran and Hurst south to Driveway on Grove. Uh, no,

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no, no, excuse me. From, uh Gran and Hurst uh east on Hurst to Oxford, south on Oxford to Dwight, east on Dwight to Gaily, north on Gy to Hurst and then west on Hurst to the origin point at granted. Hurst is the motion to that effect.

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Mr Mayor disappears quite recently. Uh The as an alternative uh group to follow, uh I can see the kinds of difficulties that would develop with the four pronged converging attack. Uh Like that uh converging the effort of the uh was previously indicated by the application. And

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it does appear to me that this group provides those people who haven't had the great pleasure of seeing what the People's Park looks like. They can go right beside it there on the white way, so be there and nobody has to look at it from a

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far. So this appears reasonable to me, Mr Mayor. I think we certainly should not take any action. That would indicate that this is Negro councilman, Mr Sweeney. I knew the group as suggested by the chief just I know that we approve that and the time within

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which the time, the second on this Mo Mr I just like to point out that this must be a first in the history of granting permits in the city, first of all. And I say this for the benefit of the audience, we waive the time limit

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normally necessary for the application. We've uh been unable to accept the route as requested. But on an act of of our own rather than uh negotiating with uh the committee chairman, we are now granting a permit with a recommended route acceptable to the chief city manager

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in this council. And I think it should be pointed out that it's an act to, to try like the, as best we can to be sure that that part of the parade, if it must occur will occur in a way that will be the least dangerous

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to not only the citizens of our community, but those people who are marching in that parade and they put on yesterday, I have in the past four days. This guy is unbelievable. 300 more far right. Petition here with 243 I need people just do not want

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a parade this coming Friday. The possibility of 30 40,000 people coming into Berkeley to me means chaos. And for these people too, the uh and all the people that are telling for me, it's a very dangerous situation. Uh I have then in every confrontation issue that

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had been before the council, I have all faith in Chief Baker. Believe me, I have a faith in his men. I have a faith in the uh National Guard. I have a faith, faith in the Alameda County sheriff's office and in the state highway, I'm positively

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certain that this is going to be a confrontation because of all the well meaning kids here tonight, there are going to be mobs and mobs of people that want trouble and I just cannot vote for a permit. I'm terribly sorry, but I'm thinking of the city

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of earth. I don't want it in flame. I don't want merchants had their windows broken. I don't want, uh, more gas. I don't want the possibility of having to use buckshot or, or I, I, I'm just afraid of it and not only afraid of it, but

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all of these people are so I'm going to vote against the motion. Mr Mayor. May I beg your indulgence to add one more comment with respect to the proposed route and the parade permit itself? Chief Baker and I are basically exercised engaging in an exercise in

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faith ourselves. We are convinced on the basis of many, many conversations and contacts over the course of the past week that there are great numbers of people who want to indicate their feelings with respect to this question, but who want to do it in a way

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that is non violent, that is peaceful and that will demonstrate their feelings without generating additional confrontation. We are engaging in an act of faith in the goodwill, the concern of those people for the community that we all live in. And we believe firmly that if we

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offer an appropriate route on which people can march to demonstrate their feeling and their concern and that will bring them back from an assembly point that is large enough to be suitable and back to a dispersal area that is large enough to be suitable for the

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numbers of people involved that in this fashion, uh the city of Berkeley can accommodate those feelings and do it in a way that is uh give those people an opportunity to demonstrate what they believe. And at the same time gives us an opportunity to demonstrate that

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we can preserve peace and safety in the community and the peace and safety of a march of people who are interested in demonstrating their feelings about a crucial issue. And I further simply wanted to express chief, the chiefs and my personal appeal to everybody who is

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interested in this matter to follow the route if such a route is designated. And to give us the opportunity to demonstrate that we can protect their safety in expressing their feelings as well as preserving the peace and safety of the community. And we appeal to everyone

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who is interested in the matter, interested in marching to urge all of those who are associated with them to do it in the same spirit. And I certainly hope that you are right and I'll, I'll say a prayer tonight that you are right. But I've been

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in many of the confrontations. You've been here a year. I've served on this council 14 years in the last six year. It has been held. No, II I, you can't, you can't control. What are you gonna do about toilet facility? What are you now? That's a

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good question. What are you gonna do about toilet facilities? What about the the hunger? They're gonna get me hungry. Uh Oh, please, please, I listened to you I listened to you for three hours. Let me ask these speeches for me, please. Speeches to you not please.

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I know you don't like me and maybe I don't like some of you people now. No, I mean, uh I think you see, uh I can't, I can't be being threatened because it might be a mob riot if there's to be a mob riot. Uh That's

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too bad. I feel that I'm not going to stoop and, and bow to coercion or blackmail. So II, I wish you a lot of luck. And I, and, and I'll be the first one if theres no trouble to come publicly state that uh it was great,

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but I'm worried, I'm worried until tomorrow night. I hope no. All right. Uh There's others on the council may wish to speak to this subject. Motion. Mrs May I would like to remind ourselves that really the right to have a peaceful parade and a peaceful demonstration

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is really one of our constitutional rights and our responsibility tonight is to, it seems to me, uh make a recommendation about time place and manner. Um I'm encouraged in doing this because during this past week, uh I think we have all received a good many assurances

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and probably have attended a 123 meetings in which this problem has been discussed. Now, of course, no one can guarantee in advance that there will be no uh foolish people who will try to turn a peaceful march into a violent demonstration. But I think we can

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depend on the goodwill of the city and the good faith of a great many persons who are planning to enter the march because they do believe in peaceful demonstrations and that they will try to keep it just that further comment to this motion before they vote

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Mr Price. Mr Mayor. I'd like to ask uh one question of the uh of our Chief of Police. I would uh affirm what Mrs may has said that of course, it is a right to free speech and constitutional right to parade when you go through the

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proper procedure. I would rely on what our city manager and our chief of police have said that they are satisfied with the plan which the chief has proposed. I believe they have answered this question in uh in some measure, but I would like to ask it

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directly again if I may, how the she believes, um because I wouldn't even want him to be influenced unduly by the desire to guarantee assembly at the expense of public safety, the safety of those people who are parading the safety of the law enforcement people, the

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safety of the community. And I would simply like ask you, Chief Baker, are you completely satisfied that you have sufficient numbers of law enforcement? Then to give you good reason to believe that the situation can be kept under control. And Mr Price, I feel that we

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do. I would like to incur in what Mr Henley has said, I recognize that there is a risk involved here. There's a risk and there probably will be some violent people in that crowd of 30 to 50,000 well have met with the people that Mr Hanley

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is talking about and I think that there are a lot of non violent people want to demonstrate and I respect their right to demonstrate. And perhaps I'm a little naive but I still have faith in people and I'm willing to take that risk to speak. Mr

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Yes, I have one question. First of all, I have one, it seems to me that all we constitution, we have the right to do is to talk about the time place and manner. And since we have, in fact, this is the newest council member elected this

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year, also Negro. Uh the other, the other question that I have, uh Chief Baker, I guess two or three days ago, there was a confrontation of sorts at the, the, the fence. Uh There was a hat right along the, the uh side of the fence. And

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um two notable things happened there. One, the defense didn't come down and two, I guess they're one of the extra um law enforcement officers called in. If in fact, some people along this parade march decide that they want to terminate uh at the People's Park area

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and they get involved in the kind of activity that went on two or three days ago. I wondered if you were prepared at this time or even if you care to indicate what you think would be the proper response for the law enforcement agency. We would.

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But for credit again, why? As I have publicly stated myself somewhat on faith, there was uh the occurrence that you talked about. Now, the fact that the para is going by the park and we want anyone to be misled, there will be National Guard groups inside

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the park as there have been uh for in the past week, it will still be there. Uh I think you pointed out that the fence was not torn down. I think there could be several factors which influence that decision. You said that the officers did not

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arrive, so they did, but they also recognized the situation. And I think the most important thing of all it involved perhaps 100 and 50 to 200 people, not 30 to 50,000. And I think this is a very significant difference. Now, some people, I would hope the

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people who are marching and who are leading this march. And uh I trust this, but because of number of people who have come here to demonstrate, uh if they believe that should be important, then I think I would hope that the lead element, for example, of

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the march isn't going to stop there and block the street and keep all these other people from passing by this park or passing by this se of what they did, Mr Mayor Chief Baker, uh in the event that violence should break out, who is coordinating any

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law enforcement effort that would be used in order to disperse the the violence producers or to take care of the situation. Who's overall in this operation in charge you with your, he is in charge. I would like to state at this time. I have questions in

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some people's minds has issued no orders. Uh, he has issued no orders to me, the Berkeley police officers have been under my direction. They, there are rules and regulations and the discipline of the department. The same is true of the California Highway patrol. However, as chief

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law enforcement officer in Alameda County under the emergency proclamation, he is the all operation commandment. What do you mean when you say the same is true of the California highway patrol that they are under your direction? No, sir, that he has not issued orders to the

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California highway patrol, but he has been under the command of supervising inspector Ralph Walker, who is the commander for the highway patrol in this area watching the bar since we're on this and people are interested in the National Guard under sheriff, the Alameda County sheriff's direction.

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What is the estimated length of the proposed something like 3 to 4 miles? It's gonna be, uh, approximately 3.5. However, I was assured by Mr that this would not be excessively long, even for women and Children. Since the March, the Peace March, the Keys art studio

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in San Francisco was over five miles while many people successfully completed that actually making a little rapid calculation here, if people would have March 10 West and about 5 ft apart by rows. I believe that if the expected number March you uh you have anticipated or

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at least the trade committee is anticipated, they will hardly be leaving all of them from the assembly point by the time the original Marchers get back to the assembly point. And I think so. Yes. And that illustrates the almost incredible and preposterous nature of this whole

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adventure in faith. And I think it certainly is a challenge to every person who feels morally responsible to any of his fellows that he conduct himself as a peaceful citizen. I might say that since this program started and we haven't discussed this subject yet directly. But

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uh I have been informed uh from uh one of our secretaries who's been taking calls that they have a unprecedented flood of call from all over the state of California in here, of parents of others who are absolutely afraid of what may happen tomorrow because they

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sense this problem and they said it is up to the City council as I hope we are now discharging our responsibilities to do everything possible so that these people can be reassured that there are responsible officials as well as thee of responsible individuals to see if

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we can pull off a thing of this magnitude without anyone being injured. She reports to me that people have been crying over the phone. They say they have Children of color, they say that they are concerned citizens and they're calling from all over the state. And

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I hope just everyone within this, the reach of this program, if they do not feel compelled to come here, we'll realize the sheer magnitude of this problem. And perhaps some of them decide to stay away. And also by the fact that those who do come will

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certainly have to conduct, conduct themselves in a manner that's perhaps unprecedented. Also, does anyone else want to express their views before we vote on this motion? Very briefly. Obviously, this uh decision is at best, very difficult. And all of us in arriving at these kinds of

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decisions, we various factors and place greater premiums on certain things than others. With that, I just would like to say that I don't plan to vote in favor of this motion. Although with all due respect, I clearly understand the efforts of good faith. Uh and I

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think it's, it becomes us in, you know, these moments of difficulty to make that kind of uh move. However, the value that I placed the great greatest premium upon uh tomorrow's activity, given the fact that there may be 30 to 50,000 people is the whole question

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of keeping it as fluid as possible with as much flexibility as we possibly can have. Even with the present route. There's no question but that essentially most of the same problems still exist. You still have the same number of people, you still have private conditions, you

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still have most of the other, most of the factors. The one thing that element that is different is is where people disperse. My hope was that that a decision could be arrived at. That would keep it, keep the situation uh as fluid as possible and as

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flexible as possible. One of the speakers and this certainly is in no way intended as a as a personal attack, but one of the speakers made the comment that uh the statement, the real issue here is to appease or not to appease. Now, I think that

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much more, a much more appropriate questions than that. One of them is, are we talking about? And I think Doctor Martin Luther King and others made a statement and I think he really won. Are we gonna have peaceful coexistence or violent co annihilation? I think that's

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a really good question. Are we gonna have problem solving or people crushing or, or we gonna have chaos or community? I think these are much more vital questions and much more relevant questions than the question of to appease or not to appease. Uh I would think

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uh obviously my colleagues all have to search their own value system. What they find as important for me, what is essentially important is the question of leaving as flexible as possible. What every single one of us irrespective of our ideologies, irrespective of our jobs clearly recognized

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would be a an extremely difficult situation. I have some other points that I think when we get to, when we get past this motion, I cannot in good faith, even though I respect the wisdom and the judgment of making the decision because it doesn't agree necessarily

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with what I place as important in what happens tomorrow. I have concerns, for example, it is certainly not a statement true at all. I would hope that everyone will abide by whatever decision is made. But I'm concerned about the policy. I think Mr we asked the

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question very diplomatically but I would, you know, I wouldn't be concerned about the question of with 50,000 people, some of whom may or may not go separate routes, four or five different directions. What would be the policy? I want to mitigate against any possible way that

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an issue can be uh confronted, that issues can be raised that could end up in any kind of arrest any kind of confrontation. And with 50,000 people, I think the only way to do that, it's not a question of appeasement, a lot of peace and that

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at this point, it totally irre I think it's a question of how do we as a community that certainly is not even a dot on uh California map, absorb 50,000 people and have a demonstration and disperse without any difficulty. Any way you look at. That is

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a difficult thing. My value system, my perceptions tell me to leave it as flexible as possible, as open as possible and operate on the ultimate faith. The ultimate is faith is that if you had 234 or five different directions, that the overwhelming majority is not the

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total number of people coming in or in our city would do their thing uh with dignity and with pride and with peace and exercise of their constitutional rights and disperse with that in mind. I, I'm prepared to vote against it. Well, Mr Des, uh the manager

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has before us, a map of the proposed route which we heard that in their judgment was completely unacceptable because of the problems inherent in it. Have you uh substitute motion or some other suggested arrangement which would enable you to vote for it. Yeah. Well, obviously, I

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think the most, uh the most, the most flexible thing to do it seems to me is to provide various avenues of variety. See, I, I honestly don't feel and as I mean, this with, uh with everything that is in me, I don't feel that anyone is

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gonna move on that fence. Now, if someone does, it certainly would violate whatever faith I have or whatever judgment I have. And I'm not saying I'm always right, but I just be wrong many times. I don't feel that anyone is gonna bother that man. I feel

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that the majority of people will be mature adults. The young people who came before us from Berkeley High School were not immature kids to put together the words put together the statements, they put together the concepts and the feelings they put together. These are mature, young

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people who are reflective of young people who are raising serious questions across this country. Unfortunately, they live at a time when maybe they can enjoy being youthful and, and as, as people several years ago did, they are very serious, mature people, I'm willing to risk the

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ultimate thing that, that if we went several routes, if there was some expression of giving a psychology, you wouldn't have to do it. I don't want to place anyone in the bag. I'm just trying to express my own personal beliefs that people would and most of

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them would then leave as a legitimate expression of their concern. I think those who would stay would be a group that would in no way approach that fence with any malice or any violence. Uh Because I think people clearly recognize that at least that many of

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us are making a serious effort as we possibly can. This is just my feeling, as I said, I'm not a technician, I'm not a tactical person. I don't have the same headaches that Chief Picker have to have. What condition? I don't have the same problems that

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the city manager had. You know, I, I'm looking at it from a purely different set of values and I like to think that I'm very consistent in that and I think we want to leave as much flexibility as possible to allow people to go there in

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several route because this can be ok. It can be, it can be a most people different, Mr Mayor. I understand the feelings that Mr Dell has expressed, I would only ask that you consider this aspect of the problem we are interested. We are as interested in

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demonstrating that we the law enforcement agencies and the city manager is the responsible, ultimately responsible person can handle this kind of expression of civil liberty in the city. We are as interested in demonstrating that we can support it and make it possible to be conducted peacefully

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as the people who have indicated to us are interested in making it peaceful and the most the most effective way we can do that is to put us in a position where our people know what is expected of them and what their respective roles are. If

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we are faced with a totally open and totally flexible situation, it makes it extremely difficult if not impossible for us to perform the function of protecting the right to March and express their views. That's our basic concern, Mr Mayor and is one of the comments I

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uh wanna make it clear that these comments of mine comments that I make in good faith. I I in no way want or wish to encourage anyone in the event uh in the event that this particular route is adopted. I in no way wish to encourage

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anyone to violate that route. I will be there tomorrow and I would be more than happy to end my participation in leading such a march in that regard. May we would appreciate that? We would appreciate that who hasn't spoken to this issue would like to Mr

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B like, let me do it again. No, no, I don't want to speak to it again. Just a couple of little rebuttal. And now, uh the uh uh I feel that I'm discharging my duties as much as anyone else. I have had telephone calls from men

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and fathers and mothers asking me to see if we can't stop having that parade because of the, their boys in college, uh worried that they may enter into the, uh frolicking just for the pleasure of it. Now, uh, and Mr Dell said, you know, interupt, just

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ask you a question. How would you stop? How would you stop the parade with 20 to 50,000 people? No, the counsel from issuing a permit. All right. So we don't issue a permit then. What do we do? We don't win. How do we, how do we

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do that? Ok. All right now and looked down and said, I don't think they're gonna move on the fence either, but they're not gonna move on the fence, but they're gonna move on the, on the public's windows and, and a lot of other mischievous, uh, events.

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Look at them all just briefly. I have before me, they come to the march. The people of Berkeley are outraged and demand an end to the incredible terrorism of the reckless professional politicians who control state and police power. We are marching to demand the f must

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come down. The police must be disarmed. The National Guard must go home. All charges against demonstrators must be dropped. Preparation, preparation, preparation must be not clapping for me, please. I, I've listened to you people for three hours. I don't, I think we want must be made,

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be paid to the injured, the police criminal and the general must be brought to justice. You are going to have a hell of a riot tomorrow and I beg you to vote. No. Could I ask you to read the first sentence on the next page? The

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top second. We will not initiate any violence.