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Right. The, the th di 12 to, that's the several other people. And she said, uh, she said that she would be in touch with you individually. Ok. Uh, I think I, I think you'll be at the hospital he was in for a while but he went

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back in the hospital. What time? Of course. And, but no, I appreciate your, you called me a few weeks ago. All right, I'm interested in your nerve video that you call it. We call it from Oakland to the fun. Right. There's a lot of calls.

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Um, you don't, uh, no credit cards that the, no, well, what does the check be made for? What? Right. Right. They, they do endorphin to the right. The right. Good. It's a po box according to the report. Close to 10 hours. And how long do you

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think that it would take for, to live? Give the death of his judgment? Ok. All right. That's what I do. Bye. Hello. Pretty well. How are you? I, I like that but otherwise I'm doing fine. Well, I keep waiting for some word from, uh, Tom Van

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Dyk or somebody that, no, you walk it up and I go up, ok. And I found it set down before. Yeah, but I found it. Sure. So I sent it on tomorrow. Who's Maurie? Maurie? Ok. Is one that I get to work for? Well, I, I

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said to my research for a couple of companies now, tell me what, what do they invest in? I do. Alternative and, and that's all I did. Mhm. It's just me. Uh, what are you going? Right. Well, I, I have it right in front of me here.

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But, uh, oh, they said I'll, I'll send you all of that. They were just only, hello? Not, not that good at all but, oh, it does not have anything to do with the computers. Oh, ok. Because, uh, the, the high tech end of the market. So

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that, to be, has been rumored as we know. But, uh, no, yours has. Yeah. Yeah. According to this, the, uh, the gap is between 33.30 and 34.96. So, call it, how old would you want? About 55 it out? So, uh, I expect to hear from him.

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Is that right? Well, uh, I told to your friend, I just didn't know quite how to go about doing this because, uh, th, and don't, actually doesn't know we do it as, as my so roller. But, uh, they, they sort of have, yeah. Well, so what's

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this guy's name again? Im doing well. Where is he located? In New York, New York. So, you have an 800 number and that also, uh, whole one and they, they call itself a front all the time. Yeah. Not just

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cold. Why? From New York or New York? I'm ok. Here's, what is that? Fho W A LDA little Alternative Fund 150 r hollow road mouth feel right. Seven. Ok. Is it all on us momorey? Wow. All right. You all trying to find the one? God. God

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follow. No, no 11. Why? What phone number that doesn't make me? All right, I get that. So he's gonna, gonna contact me process. I wrote to find out how I go about it and the old used without selling it. Oh, yeah, that's very smart because if,

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if you, if you sell the new business and if I buy my business, but maybe, maybe you can do it. Well, I think there is a incidentally, well, I hope so, but incidentally as long as we're talking on the subject, um, the forest built property is

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still in both of us. I'm afraid so I'm going tomorrow. Yeah, very good. I thought we could do all that. You have. I thought, I thought we did it stop loss on it. I thought we did it too. But here's the problem. Uh, what I want

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to do is to switch it from you and me to uh, he got you. Yeah, I like it but that's required a uh, transfer that is signed by you in the name of Lois Anderson. So can, so can you give me? No, it's not. Not so

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funny. Ok. Ok. So, can, can you find, uh, an attorney, uh, uh, uh, I don't understand. No, I mean, a, a notary public, you know what I mean? Who will, who will motorize your signature after you're filming it right now? You understand? Do you think we

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can do that? I'm sure you're getting a lot of male hairs with, of course, mostly from the Democratic National Committee that I wouldn't want to go to tell my daughter just, oh, dear. Well, ok, so what, what I thought is I, I'll, I'll say that you'll

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let me know just how to hand, you know, the longer I was the money that not really. No, it was over 35 the last time I looked it now, under 35. When did you go? Well, last week? Oh, I didn't know that. Well, it went up

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yesterday and, yeah, but it, it, it's, uh, and it grows, let me see. Pro one of course, is just an idea. It's not an ideological. Yeah. So, but you don't, you don't feel like I'm giving up a giving away a thought. Go every time. Never mind.

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I'll buy it. Yes, please. I love the fun because it does. The government think of it. But, uh, all the, for society. Now, how soon do you need the money? Well, I I sort of needed in about two weeks. No. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you.

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Well, if I don't do it or show I'll send you down all the information. No, I don't care about the literate. All I want is all I want. All I wanna know is what I have to decide. Or maybe I don't find anything. Maybe you exercise.

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I probably like, as if you do. Probably, they all, they all sound very nice. Yeah, that look good. In other words, this will not pass through some and, and put in that, that, that is as far as I know at once that I can handle it

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because I called down there and, yeah, I, I even deal with her. Told me this. Do I get a certificate in my hand or how do I know that I have? Yeah. Really hard. I always like to have some kind of evidence. Oh, did I get

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that old something? All right, I'll make you. Is that unreasonable? Well, I've had it all this time and I, that, and that, but they tell me I was young. I don't report it and go to it to say what I wanted to do. Ok. Any way

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I can describe it. Oh, of course. Oh. Oh, yeah, I just go all that too. Oh, great. Yeah, I think I remember seeing some. All right. The Maurice one that very optimistic, huh? Yeah, I'm very optimistic. You do something really? Anyway. I think that's, I do

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feel was very good. II, I had the direction you just said over there. I said I sent it to Rachel or when they come to vote for both of them. Oh, I got something terrible. Six years. But there's something coming to you. I'm not going out

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here. It's for everybody. Uh, well, there, there are more people than you. This is not, the thing is. Yeah. So both of these simple things. Ok. Well, what is everybody be doing now? Because I have a house now. We'll be going out there some, oh, wait

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a minute. I mean, there's something in this package for, for very regular in that and a little tiny. I do a little. Yeah. Mhm. Oh, where is that? 000, I don't really, I don't really know where they just general. Well, so, well, I don't have a

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r, so if you get any bright ideas that you looking for us. Yeah. Ok. And then have a knee surgery. That should be a good general. Yeah. Ok. Yeah. There you go. Just let me know before I should mail it within a week. I think we're

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gonna get it otherwise I'll send it back now. Uh, you, you could send it to either one of them with, uh, and then so his letters, I have to open it and that wherever we, yeah. Yeah. Ok. All right. I'll do, I'll write a letter on

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the side. I'll send him a card. I'll send Rachel on my card. And what? Oh, that's good. Ok, when I get all done here and everything, I'm going to come down and visit now, Harry do it. Sure looks good. I hope so. Ok. Ok, that sounds

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good. I am good. I'm feeling fine. And you, when are you gonna have your eye operated? I don't know because I gotta go see a classic gonna do you saw, uh, you, you've been to that before? Yeah, just so I have that. But that. Ok, so

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this one time, um, can I tell you I got first. No. Exactly. So, no, but it, the big question is, can you go outside and other? No, not unless I get that. Hey, hey, this is a possibility. Don't think I have thought of it if I

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can't get it done one way, I'm sure it could be done. Except you go back to doctor car. Yeah. No, thank you and put me out. All right. You already include out. All right, dear. That's a good luck. I don't know. But that's all right. Next

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time there's no place I saw you. Well, yes, in the emergency hall. Really? Seriously. And the bench always. Yeah. Ok. Ok. Ok. Ok. All right. Yeah. Drive the civil rights type stuff and has done a lot of, and, and, and the work is Genard. He was

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involved in kind of a, uh, a dispute between what, what he calls locals and uh Roques in terms of uh trying to get work and then when they move into the central valley, um it's, uh it's a place in the table grapes where they focus their

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energies is a place where um as far as I've been able to tell that we're no working. And so I'm kind of interested in who, who was working there and how they self define themselves. Because what happened, one of the, one of my arguments is that

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what happened after 65 is, is the, the field overwhelming, overwhelming with the, the tel people with two groups in Mexico. And that the experience in the table grapes with people that we would call Mexican Americans. I don't know exactly how they express themselves was um uh

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unusual. So that for instance, when it goes into, when they move into Salinas where the Braceros did work, it's, it's basically a, uh a very, very different population of people, um uh which they, people that they had worked with and people who had roots uh in,

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in, uh, in groups and in some ways they worked again. And that, that's the way to understand a lot of the waffling on the question of the border patrol in the newsroom that the US government doing. That's one of the approaches that I'm taking. But in

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order to do that, I have to know a little bit more specifically, um for sure that it was Mexican Americans working in the naval base as well as Filipinos and what the, what the various percentages of people were. And I've talked to a couple of people

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who are supposed to know a lot about grapes and some, uh, various people that were in the UFW in the early years. And they really can't answer that question for me. And I thought that maybe you guys know that. Well, I'd have to do a little

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digging in by our cars. Tell me this. Are you writing a book? Yes, I am. Ok. Yes, I am. I, uh, I've written a couple of books before and, uh, and I wrote an article in the Nation, um, when, um, a, a after jar died. Uh

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huh. And I, um, and that got me the book contract. I worked in the field in the Caven area for, um, six seasons in the, in the middle of the seventies. I worked on UF W-2. I can tell you. And so I know real well the,

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um, the people in Salinas, um, who eventually were involved in a, um, in an internal dispute with the central office in Atlanta. Yeah, I remember hearing but, uh, I, I know those folks and to a certain extent I'm writing the story from the point of view

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of those books. Well, this will be a different approach than, uh, most, yeah, there been a lot of books as you know. Yeah. Yeah, this is a very different approach and I'm really gonna try to, um, deal with the question of Latin democracy and try to

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try, uh, with the question of, um, uh, over reliance on, on the work, um, on the premises that w, and we, we're gonna try to write a, uh, you know, I certainly writing different experience of, um, of the UFW. But II, I gonna be critical of

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the violence whatnot. Yeah. Well, don't, uh, don't ride rough the Politano Post again. No, I'm certainly not gonna do that. I'm certainly not going to do that. Nor am I writing a book. That's an attempt to be a debunked book. I'm not writing for all the

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third time. That's not my opinion at all. But I do, I am gonna write about, um, uh, the various problems that you had and of course, this song I tell. But, um, well, I think, uh, you have to say something about it. Good. Yeah. Yeah. You

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have to hear a lot about these things and, uh, and, uh, well, sure, I'd be happy to talk to you. Um, well, um, are you in Palo Alto or African or Leno? Right. I live in Oakland. You live in Oakland? I don't know why I had

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that other. Oh, I know it was Harvard. Harvard or late Harvey was, I think it's been a lot. Well, I heard that just two days ago. No. What's that? You might look into it. I talked to him on the phone um, a month ago. Oh, well,

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then, you know, you know, more than I did. Ok. And, uh, well, that's good. Um, well, uh, yeah, I would like to come up and see you if I could. Um, when would be a particularly a good time for you? Are you in a big hurry?

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No, I'm not in the future. My deadline is September and I got the book about half done. So, but, um, so I could wait. And I also would like to, um, if we make a date, I'd like to sort of tell you some other questions that

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I have. Ok, here's the thing. My, my archives are, uh, not clear. They're up in, they're up in Sonoma County and, uh, I, uh, we'll be doing a test in a week or so and maybe I could do a little ring around. But, uh, but then

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that takes a bit busy holiday. I think it should be. That's fine with me. That's fine with me. Um, I, I, uh, where do you live? I live in Watsonville. Oh, ok. Well, that will be a little trip for you. Yeah. No, that's ok. Um, maybe

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you come up to the like, very. Yeah. And I have to, there's a various people. I have to talk to the area. I wanna talk to John. W, I don't know if you know him. I know him very well. I wanna talk to John and he

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and I are on a panel and, uh, labor History. Con a and, uh, I can just see what's the top, what's happening? The topic is organizing during the Bracero era. Oh, he's gonna talk about, uh, local 78 and I'm gonna talk about things that were going

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on. You can talk to me before AOL. Uh huh. Who, um, who else is gonna be on the panic? Carlos Munoz is gonna talk about Larsa and the, uh, the moderators of panal victory. Uh, well, I, I think I'm gonna come to that but that's, uh,

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I'd like to if, um, if we could meet sometime in January. Um, why don't you, why don't you call me again after the first of the year and we'll narrow it down? Ok. Fine. Could I tell you a couple of?